“Concern trolls like DiManno act as if people pushing for gender inclusivity in language are trying to eradicate women rather than just expand society’s conception of trans women, non-binary women, and other people with vaginas. Absolutely no one has told anyone the word “woman” has been banned. “
The above paragraph actually shows the pattern of women being displaced in language by starting with transwomen shifting through nonbinary as the gender paradigm shift without a diagnosis, to person with a vagina – which is the meaning of woman, given person was defined and understood as male, rather than person with a penis – in the same way that neither man or woman has had to specify heterosexual.
From the quote: “expanding the concept of transwomen” by altering the words used to describe women is not equality, but removal of women.
“chest feeder “and “pregnant person” are neutering’s not neutralizing language, which English, as all languages are heteromale centric.
Further fixating on function is to diminish the whole person, the human, the sum of parts and demographics and other labels; and it is whole persons, not ideas nor parts that have rights.
The article is part of the constant dismissal of anyone who raises a concern and the concern mocked – is part of the gaslighting, minimizing and demeaning the impact of the dissolving of language, which depends on a shared common understood meaning.
That women are not being allowed to say no should be a concern. that is to be able to say no to the language change for words and phrases to identify, to be able to say no to an academic idea without career damaging consequences, to be able to say no without being name called or debated or shunned for saying no.
The words relating to women are being banned and the meaning of any word is ended with the opposite is included within the word’s meaning: and interesting how it is the concept of transwomen and “non binary women and other people with vaginas” when non binary does not alter biology. and “persons with vaginas” are being used to describe women, when the word woman already means that without being biologically blunt.
every time a woman speaks woman words, trans women claim they are being excluded… women are speaking about ourselves, our bodies and our experiences… women are being silenced. at every level women have achieved, with disproportionate harm to women across ethnicity, disability, immigration and poverty status, who have less access to nonprofit services, and rape/battered shelters owing to altering the meaning of “woman” by including men in the meaning – rather than addressing the male violence across the spectrum of males from hetero to homo, bisexual and trans/non-binary
with transwomen’s prioritization disproportionate to transmen, and only lesbians being burderned with a slur.
those opposed to marriage said same sex to conjure images of gay anal sex, while those for used same gender to reduce the sexual stigma and to have a phrase that could be used by gay men and lesbians – and note the word lesbian includes both gender and sexuality in one word. Marriage equality retained marriage as between two people and it did not alter heterosexual marriage in any way.
Whereas transgender is claiming that the characteristics of gay and lesbian are bigotry, when those are the characteristics that heterosexuals oppressed us, to this very genocidal world reality in 2021 – and are in fact opposed to language to describe women that accurately describes women because these words and the observable reality are what is commonly understood, because anyone can observe and perceive it.
While the claims of transgender identity theory, do not explain, are not testable and doctors do not assign, only observe and measure; an any academic idea that cannot be questioned, may be dismissed without consideration. the harm to academia and the public’s deeming university to be elitist and unrelated to the real world, is not helped by the over protection of ideas that cannot be academically defended if not questioned.
Nor real world applied owing to the unintended consequences of the loss of women’s rights protections, nonprofits that provide crisis services to women and are not for the public, such as Vancouver Rape Relief, but a safe place from the public; across professions, and very particularly lesbian subculture – from the Michigan Womyn’s music festival to lesbians social spaces where those who are clothes from heterosexual do not belong and the phrase “cotton ceiling” which was lesbian panties and now being rolled back to transwomen’s panties, which is the incel language of complaining about not having sexual access, which is not subject to human rights, but individual sexual selection.
Further, the loss of women’s speech, expression from words to careers to do so from; and the failure to hold heterosexual men to account for the assault, rape and murder rates across not only trans – where the word transphobia is the at court defense word – and gay men – where the word homophobia is also a at court defense word – and it is not heterosexual men who are being held to account – but rather lesbians being singled out for name calling and exclusion for not dating transwomen.
so dear transwomen: since women’s words do not resonate, I quote what heterosexual men have been saying to all women for decades: feelings are not facts.
Hetero men who name called when refused dates are bad behaviour and any women who denies lesbians or any person a no on a date – which is a personal choice, and not a human rights issue – is part of the problem of dating.
to each person preference of desire and to the choice of sexual selection and intimate relations
Lesbians helped heterowomen get reproductive and workplace rights and then they went off and enjoyed those… then there was AIDs….. and now… this:
However, our findings throw up several questions:
Who is on the wrong side of history when the GBT community operates a large-scale gaslighting of lesbians to accept the mantra that “trans women are women”; penises are deemed to be a female organ; and heterosexual intercourse is now redefined as a lesbian sexual practice? Who is on the wrong side of history when the GBT community uncritically supports a population of transwomen who identify as lesbians to coerce lesbians into having sex with transwomen against their will? Who is on the wrong side of history when lesbians’ sexual boundaries are disrespected and publicly demonised as hateful by the very charities whose purpose it is to defend them? Who are the GBT organisations protecting by refusing to engage with lesbians’ very serious concerns? Major gay, bisexual and trans organisations such as Stonewall and Pride in London should hang their heads in shame for ignoring our rights.
stop demanding dating as a condition of human rights support
that has to go both ways and to deny a no is to deny rights
lesbians do not expect their lesbian partners to be pregant and if the partner is a transwoman, it is very foolish to expect a lesbian to be sad she cannot get a transwoman pregnant. when the pregancy risk is the other way.
lesbian and gay sex is not procreative sex and that is part of it’s appeal and attraction.
Generational change is inevitable, healthy, and necessary to progress. What I am living through right now is a painful transitional moment in which some of those older lesbian institutions are still going strong, and seeking participation and funding, while a current generation of activists are distancing themselves from such events, or even demonstrating against them. Younger, queer activists were vocal in opposing the Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival; right-wing religious groups once eager to shut the festival down had moved on to bigger targets. This dynamic—a next generation of feminists attacking earlier lesbian institutions and disparaging their participants as less evolved—is not unique to the 21st century or the United States; it is embedded in Jill Gardiner’s powerful book From the Closet to the Screen, which describes a 1970–71 Gay Liberation Front “zap” against London’s Gateways Club bar. As this generational shift grinds on, how should the most recent decades of cultural production be interpreted, understood, and preserved? How will we use the tools of history to examine something we know existed as an investigable community?
sometimes bisexual is a portion of a woman’s life and she later lesbians and maybe call me then, see if I am available.
sometimes a person is attracted to a person because they are unclear on their own self and what they are attracted to, that personality of a sexuality and gender person.
so when bisexual women end up with men or are a phase but are not a phase. it is as exhausting as men who say they are women and then dress like women and surgically mutilate their bodies. still not women and do not define lesbian words.
i am attracted to vagina and not interested in a penis or a reverse penis hole that lacks a gspot or cervix and a woman around it.
meanwhile. bisexual and pan women and transwomen are able to date each other, without lesbians having to date outside of our group preference arising from our individual choices and preferences.
I am a lesbian, the word is gender and sexuality in one, seeking the same expression in another lesbian.
Lesbian erasure is the tendency to ignore, remove, falsify, or reexplain evidence of lesbian women or relationships in history, academia, the news media, and other primary sources.
Lesbians may also be ignored within the LGBT community and their identity may not be acknowledged
attraction to someone is not done by debate or framework
it is a physical response and an emotional reaction to the personality
lesbians have no reason to be made to feel that they have to date any person, trans or not and no one should deny anyone a no
I don’t like this modern trend in the community where some are calling others bigots or trsnsphobes for being attracted to just one set of genitals and not the other. I’m sorry, but we aren’t all pansexual or bisexual. Sexual attraction is not just about gender as many would have you believe. It’s also about biological sex and always has been, whether we like it or not. It isn’t fair to label someone a bigot or judge their character for their sexual attractions. Sexual attraction is NOT a choice and never has been. That is a fact that seems to be lost on more and more people in the community these days.
nina yes. exactly. people with a wider range of attraction do need to stop calling monosexuals bigots for gay or lesbian sexuality.
and there is no reason to be sorry or that canadian as to say it to soften the view you are legit able to hold and express. and that is legit on the face of it
and the idea of removing biology from understanding people is also very bizarre, especially given dating is sexual selection and not a human rights issue.
name calling just validates a no on dating, as it is a major red flag on what a relationship would be. Dating is about attraction to and is selecting for sexual activity and as such, is a personal choice that everyone has a yes or no on, without threat of name calling, assault, rape or murder. Being rejected as a date is not a human rights complaint.
Yeah, removing biology is a good way to put it. Some are 100% pan and 0% concerned with any biology or anatomy, and good for them, but we aren’t all like that. I can’t pretend to be pansexual to make that community happy, that would be like asking a straight person to pretend to be gay, and calling them a bigot for not being gay attracted. That’s absurd, and I hope this trend doesn’t stick or it will be very unhealthy for the community.
As a cis gay man I’ve always found the prospect of gay trans men interesting. I sometimes find myself attracted to trans men. Most that I’ve met in person seem to be interested in women though.
I do not use the term cis, it has too many problems with the sissy slur and copting from black culture sounding like sis and. your identity is in your world experience. not other people’s who need other words to make sense of themself.
it is hard to have a conference on women and exclude mensuration, abortion/pregnancy and, menopause as panels and discussion/information.
nor should anyone pretend to be attracted to who they are not or use a label to avoid being name called.
bisexuals vs pansexual is a horrible debate too, bisexual being binary attraction and pan being beyond binary should be a compromise
I personally don’t like the term pansexual because in fact there are NOT a panorama of sexes. There are 2 biological sexes, and in rare cases intersex. Pansexual refers to an attraction to multiple genders, and gender is a distinct concept from biological sex, so they really should describe that differently and not fight with people who are bisexual.
bi vs pan is not about either one of those, it is about transgender. and it is about making gender something in a person’s mind and that is kinda like having to respect a person’s religion when you are an atheist.
once you reject the idea that there is only one hetero way to be either gender, it is not hard to realize there are many ways to be. personality and character is not limited to sexuality/gender and for lesbians there is one word that includes both, given faggot was not reclaimed by gay men.
Gender is a social construct and a personal issue. I don’t like when people misuse science and try to say that science proves anything about gender. It doesn’t. Science only proves biological sex, and shows there’s a spectrum of hormonal balances, brain chemistry and neurological patterns that usually correspond to one biological sex but don’t always, and many people (including me) exist somewhere on that spectrum. We’re just getting caught up in stupid labels with all this infighting about what is factual and what isn’t, and who is “woke” and who isn’t. The science is very clear.
how gender is represented and expected is a cultural concept that does vary, but that people have a gender is biology. I agree – it is also like religion vs biology, when biology says nothing about religion, and anthropology puts religion in it’s cultural place.
academics, medical, legal and then average people understanding differs across jargon specific vs casual use of language – and then are the agenda activists.
everyone is one person and not any or all others.
“all identities simultaneously” – anyone else wondering how self loathing is driving this?
The film depicts Wagemans making the prototype for a futuristic mask, a piece of hackable body equipment that would incorporate software and could conceptually queer the notion of identity. “The story Samuel created is about documenting the making of a mask that is a fictive hacked nano-tech transhuman prototype that connects a global network of queer people who reject the mainstream appetite for immortality, super-intelligence, and well-being,” she told Dazed. “An object that you could take off and allows any uncensored software to be installed like scrambled identity – becoming all identities simultaneously.”
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Adrienne Potts, Pat Murphy, Sue Wells and Heather Byers were accused of instigating a “lesbian riot” in 1974 in Toronto pub the Brunswick House.
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The former television star, who is biracial, said that when she was pregnant with son Archie, there were “concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born.”
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But she said she wouldn’t offer additional comment on the situation “given these are private citizens, sharing their own story and their own struggles.”
The company had said it would use the term “womxn” in order to be more gender neutral in its language.
But LGBT communities online called the change transphobic because it suggested trans women were not women.
“We’re committed to growing from these experiences… and ensuring we’re inclusive to all,” the company tweeted.
“Womxn” has become a popular alternative word for people who say that the term “women” has patriarchal roots. Some believe the term is inclusive of trans women and some non-binary people, but that is contested.
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“she is raising an alarm about the increasingly common trend to use a gender-neutral term, like “people,” to group together the LGBTQ community with biologically born women, (who identify as women), to the point where it is becoming unacceptable to use the word “woman.”
Nina Notes the word “heterosexual” is missing from the above paragraph.
and it is a problem for White Heterosexual Women to be included on par with LGBTQ2, some of whom are white, the most visible and represented portion of the qmunity.
White Heterosexual Women are the group most likely to be allied with part of PFLAG – Parents and friends of. leveraging their lesser than heterosexual male privileged, on behalf, so as each group steps up, the idea is turn around and help the next group to access rights and dignity of person.
There is no question that equitable linguistic representation demonstrates respect and tolerance for more complex gender/sexual identities. But, scrubbing language of essential gender-specific words, which work eminently well for society at large, and arguably for most women, can hardly be called tolerant or respectful.”
Nina notes: including self definition as well as determination, each to our own identifiers and labels and not sticking them on others, each to our own.
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so – who is what, and who has what rights. in 2020. this is why heterosexuals are not in the qmunity of LGBTQ2, not because they are oppressed and murdered less, they are not, they are often married off to their rapists, after all, white heterosexual women were the chattle of the heterosexual men, property under the law, not named in the law as having rights; while there were laws against sexuality and passing for a gender in the terms of that centuries ago era;
with ethnicity of any person often reduced to being property rather than persons, with or without full legal rights of financial and body sovereignty.
LGBTQ2 were marginalized in that society, over time and nations.
arachic and appalling concepts those from last century and the previous should be
yet. here we are in 2020
a bible waving snakeoil saleman shilling for beans in the oval office offering feel good bigotry to get people to vote against their own financial and health care interests.
Sen Joe McCarthy of the 1950s vindicated on that one point
First they bankrupt us with 6 months of insanity and Denialism. Now they are going to sell beans to rub it in that we are broke. Or is this the designer luxury brand for the pantries of the elite bunkerbunnies? Either way 🤬 them!!!
The Orange Elephant forgets. I don’t. Living in a ‘news desert’, I just hadn’t heard about this particular controversy before. And despite shopping at real Mexican stores, I’ve never heard of Goya before either — maybe that’s because they don’t stock it?7 RepliesView previous replies
i learned a few years back one of my fave swears was an expression dating back to a 1800s young woman who was left dead in a dumpster. her name was annie so sweet fuck annie morphed into sweet fuck all over time.. disposable women. I am pretty sure “precious jane doe” will not help mine today…
The 1990s was the Decade before 9/11 changed the sense of the world, before AIDS was a chronically manageable condition for parts of the world; and it changed the balance of the generational birth rate.
Generation X was the sandwich generation and the adult children of alcoholics, and we were a smaller at birth demographic and our numbers reduced further by AIDS.
For lesbians, it was the Post Butch Femme, we had worked with Heterosexual women from the 1960s and 1970s to achieve the legislated equal pay for equal work and with that, the ability to form our own credit rating not dependent on a father or husband to co-sign, and reproductive rights.
From the women’s movement, we shifted into AIDs support and caretaking as the gay men were the ones affording health care so the virus could be identified, being a slower killer than other viruses out of Africa in the era, with Ebola killing withing 24 hours usually and only in 2019 is there a vaccine for that.
We were no longer butch and femme mimicking heterosexuals, we were Dykes and we were getting things dyke done with respect to human rights across demographics.
In the 1990s, the Gay and Lesbian community presented to the mainstream a Just Like You, Just Happen to be Queer – we were Act Up, Queer Nation and Lesbian Avengers and fighting to serve in the Military and Marriage Equality at the same time.
In Canada, at the Supreme Court, it was Joshusa Birch who won the right for gays and lesbians to serve in the military, while Egan and Nesbitt won survivor benefits, Brian Mossop lead the way for Federal Government queer employees to have equal benefits and it was a group of couples who won marriage equality – not same sex marriage as the phrase in the media was to ensure the disgust reaction of the anal sex imagery or same gender marriage as the community tried to adjust for value judgement language, it was before the court and under the law – marriage equality in 2003.
From 1980 to 2004, Angles was the Vancouver queer paper – for most of it’s run “Gay and Lesbian” to a final era of “Lesbian Bisexual and Gay” to “LGBT” by 2004. with 2019, the Canadian term LGBTQ2 – adding Queer which is a comprehensive and inclusive word of all sexuality including asexual and Two Spirited, from the ingenious culture inclusive of transgender and nonbinary as genderfluidity to the spectrum of sexuality, what we are and what we are attracted to.
This blog and this presentation was prepared by Nina Tryggvason, former news editor, news and arts writer and photographer.
for a while the Toronto paper – Xtra, which began in the late 1970s and peaked in the early 1990s with Xtra in Toronto, Xtra West in Vancouver, Island Xtra on Vancovuer Island, Calgary Xtra in Albert and Capital Xtra in Ottawa is in this era. http://www.dailyxtra.com.
I left Angles and wrote for Xtra West for a short while.
and also, for an American Lesbian Magazine Girlfriends about the 1990s lesbian cancer scare that ended the Lesbian Chic of kd lang, Melissa Etheridge and Ellen coming out.
the 1990s was the era when the public found out about the Germany WW2 camps where the allies did not free everone, they left the queer prisoners in prison.
It was the decade of the end of the closet language, where it was the political that was personal. instead of in this era, when pronouns are personal; and talking points which had bullets are replaced with bullets and cars into crowds with protest signs are deemed speech issues rather than the crimes of the state or by the individual who confuses their religious viewpoint with the secualar law and fails to understand that rights are extended and not demanded, and are not to be denied when asserted, the right to exist trumps the right to complain that others do.
#Lest We Forget is an admonishment to not be a bystander.
Not inside the LGBTQ2 comunity or outside in the mainstream.
After all, we as a species continue to demonstrate, the minority needs protection because the majority cannot be trusted to be fair in the first place.