Lavender Lives: Alix Dobkin

An early leader in the music scene for lesbians and women, she passed away at her home from a brain aneurysm and stroke, according to Liza Cowan, her friend and former partner.

https://news.wttw.com/2021/05/22/head-lesbian-singer-and-feminist-alix-dobkin-dies-80‘Head Lesbian,’ Singer and Feminist, Alix Dobkin, Dies at 80 | Chicago News | WTTWThe lesbian singer and feminist activist who appeared in an iconic and recently resurgent 1975 photo wearing a t-shirt that read “The Future is Female,” has died. Alix Dobkin of Woodstock, New York, was 80.news.wttw.com

From being called “transphobic bigots”, “hateful” and “Nazis” who should be “dragged out by our saggy tits”, to having our personal details published on social media and receiving rape and death threats, the supposedly progressive mainstream seemed to have slightly overreacted to the fact that a small group of lesbians were simply marching at Pride in London.

https://news.trust.org/item/20190412100802-6md1q/Lesbians need to get the L out of the LGBT+ communityLesbians are being callednews.trust.org

undermines women entirely – not just lesbians.

https://www.economist.com/open-future/2018/07/03/the-gender-identity-movement-undermines-lesbiansThe gender-identity movement undermines lesbiansIts attempt to rebrand lesbians as queer erases their identity, writes Pippa Fleming, a performance artist | Open Futurewww.economist.com

https://torontosun.com/entertainment/celebrity/elliot-page-proudly-shares-first-shortless-pool-photoElliot Page proudly shares first shirtless pool photo | Toronto SunTransgender actor Elliot Page has showed off the results of his breast removal surgery with a shirtless pool photo.torontosun.com

this is heartbreaking the opposite way from transwomen who are hate criming lesbians

https://www.economist.com/open-future/2018/07/03/the-idea-that-trans-men-are-lesbians-in-denial-is-demeaning-and-wrong

pansexual: a real orientation or avoiding being called transphobic?

now that the public knows transgender exist and that one does not have to be heterosexual so gay or lesbian is an option, as well as bisexuals.

post your thoughts, experience or preferred dictionary definitions below

because if so pansexual is ignoring one’s own preferences or not having any and is vauge attraction for exceptional individuals. that is not really an orientation, that is an open bedroomdoor policy.

and nonbinary is merely rejecting heteronormative roles as if lesbian, gay or bisexual do not exist to demonstrate there is not any one way to be a gender or express sexual orientation, and shifting to being persons. which, heterosexual women continue to not be in most legal systems or under religion.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/pansexuality-5091676What Is Pansexuality?Pansexuality is when someone is attracted to a person despite their gender or sex.www.verywellhealth.com

https://time.com/5953047/lgbtq-holocaust-stories/How LGBTQ Victims Were Erased From Holocaust History | Time“For the queer survivors of Nazi oppression, 1945 did not bring about any kind of liberation,” argues scholar Andrea Carlo.time.com

Not “queer women” – LESBIANS

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/14/us/queer-lesbian-women-suffrage.htmlHow Queer Women Powered the Suffrage Movement – The New York TimesFor many suffragists, scholars have found, the freedom to choose whom and how they loved was tied deeply to the idea of voting rights.www.nytimes.com

The Terf Turf “Discussion”

one is redundant, the others; communication skill

1 A cunning linguist is an individual who is skilled at communicating and orally speaking

2 A cunning linguist is an individual who is skilled at communicating and oral

3 lesbian

Heteros who insult, assault, rape and murder LGBTQ2 and also hetero women, btw, are the ones who are phobic.

Not being attracted to is not the same as being a bigot.

this is phobia.

not dating people from other letter groups is not phobic.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/05/14/oregon-house-representatives-lgbt-gay-trans-panic-defence/Ban on abhorrent gay and trans panic defence unanimously passed by OregonThe Oregon House of Representatives unanimously passed a measure that bans the gay and trans panic defence in legal proceedings.www.pinknews.co.uk

Hetero men who name called when refused dates are bad behaviour and any women who denies lesbians or any person a no on a date – which is a personal choice, and not a human rights issue – is part of the problem of dating.

to each person preference of desire and to the choice of sexual selection and intimate relations

Lesbians helped heterowomen get reproductive and workplace rights and then they went off and enjoyed those… then there was AIDs….. and now… this:

*article quotes*

However, our findings throw up several questions:

Who is on the wrong side of history when the GBT community operates a large-scale gaslighting of lesbians to accept the mantra that “trans women are women”; penises are deemed to be a female organ; and heterosexual intercourse is now redefined as a lesbian sexual practice?
Who is on the wrong side of history when the GBT community uncritically supports a population of transwomen who identify as lesbians to coerce lesbians into having sex with transwomen against their will?
Who is on the wrong side of history when lesbians’ sexual boundaries are disrespected and publicly demonised as hateful by the very charities whose purpose it is to defend them?
Who are the GBT organisations protecting by refusing to engage with lesbians’ very serious concerns?
Major gay, bisexual and trans organisations such as Stonewall and Pride in London should hang their heads in shame for ignoring our rights.

https://news.trust.org/item/20190412100802-6md1q/Lesbians need to get the L out of the LGBT+ communityLesbians are being callednews.trust.org

stop demanding dating as a condition of human rights support

that has to go both ways and to deny a no is to deny rights

lesbians do not expect their lesbian partners to be pregant and if the partner is a transwoman, it is very foolish to expect a lesbian to be sad she cannot get a transwoman pregnant. when the pregancy risk is the other way.

lesbian and gay sex is not procreative sex and that is part of it’s appeal and attraction.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/02/cisgender-lesbians-and-trans-women-how-to-mend-the-rift.htmlCisgender lesbians and trans women: How to mend the rift.In theory, our multifaceted, multilettered queer community is all about alliance, solidarity, and mutual support. Though we’ve seen advances in areas…slate.com

https://watermarkonline.com/tag/lesbian-erasure/Lesbian Erasure Archives – Watermark Onlinewatermarkonline.com

Generational change is inevitable, healthy, and necessary to progress. What I am living through right now is a painful transitional moment in which some of those older lesbian institutions are still going strong, and seeking participation and funding, while a current generation of activists are distancing themselves from such events, or even demonstrating against them. Younger, queer activists were vocal in opposing the Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival; right-wing religious groups once eager to shut the festival down had moved on to bigger targets. This dynamic—a next generation of feminists attacking earlier lesbian institutions and disparaging their participants as less evolved—is not unique to the 21st century or the United States; it is embedded in Jill Gardiner’s powerful book From the Closet to the Screen, which describes a 1970–71 Gay Liberation Front “zap” against London’s Gateways Club bar. As this generational shift grinds on, how should the most recent decades of cultural production be interpreted, understood, and preserved? How will we use the tools of history to examine something we know existed as an investigable community?

https://slate.com/human-interest/2016/12/disappearing-lesbians-and-the-need-to-preserve-dyke-culture.htmlDisappearing lesbians and the need to preserve dyke culture.My generation of lesbian activists, who honed our identity politics and confronted racism and classism in the spaces of women’s music events and…slate.com

dear bi, pan and trans women

sometimes bisexual is a portion of a woman’s life and she later lesbians and maybe call me then, see if I am available.

sometimes a person is attracted to a person because they are unclear on their own self and what they are attracted to, that personality of a sexuality and gender person.

so when bisexual women end up with men or are a phase but are not a phase. it is as exhausting as men who say they are women and then dress like women and surgically mutilate their bodies. still not women and do not define lesbian words.

i am attracted to vagina and not interested in a penis or a reverse penis hole that lacks a gspot or cervix and a woman around it.

meanwhile. bisexual and pan women and transwomen are able to date each other, without lesbians having to date outside of our group preference arising from our individual choices and preferences.

I am a lesbian, the word is gender and sexuality in one, seeking the same expression in another lesbian.

Lesbian erasure is the tendency to ignore, remove, falsify, or reexplain evidence of lesbian women or relationships in history, academia, the news media, and other primary sources.

Lesbians may also be ignored within the LGBT community and their identity may not be acknowledged

attraction to someone is not done by debate or framework

it is a physical response and an emotional reaction to the personality

lesbians have no reason to be made to feel that they have to date any person, trans or not and no one should deny anyone a no

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_erasureLesbian erasure – Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org

women are being erased in the medial sphere and in LGBTQ

the words mean specific things and transwomen do not represent the women experience

transwomen are using the same male gaslighting behaviours and then accusing women of anger

when transwomen are getting women’s awards and being positioned as role models

while complaining about the cotton ceiling and fetisizing lesbians

and using the hetero male murdering them as a sympathy ploy

while not dating bisexuals who potentially have attraction to

https://epgn.com/2021/03/10/lesbian-erasure-a-footnote-to-womens-history-month/Lesbian Erasure: A Footnote to Women’s History Month — Philadelphia Gay NewsWomen’s History Month often seems like Erasure of Lesbians Month. Many critically important women in American history past and present were lesbians: Susan B. Anthony, Jane Addams, Dr. Alice Hamilton, Dr. Emily Blackwell, Dr. Sara Josephine Baker, Rachel Carson, Dr. Sally Ride, Barbara Jordan, Pauli Murray, Dr. Ruth Gates, Patrisse Cullors and so many others. […]Show Moreepgn.com

meanwhile

every person gets a yes or not, without a value judgement

https://emjaymurphee.medium.com/why-gay-men-wont-date-trans-men-a6daf1bbd51aWhy (Some) Gay Men Won’t Date TransmenTransphobia doesn’t quite explain itemjaymurphee.medium.com


Gay, bisexual, and queer trans men navigating sexual fieldshttps://journals.sagepub.com › doi › pdf
by AI Scheim · 2019 · Cited by 15 — Trans men are individuals assigned a female sex at birth but who identify as male or masculine. Sexualities. 2019, Vol. 22(4) 566–586 ! The Author(s) 2017. Article …
Sexual Health of Trans Men Who Are Gay, Bisexual, or Who …https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › …
by GR Bauer · 2013 · Cited by 72 — Recent reports have addressed the sexual health of female-to-male transgender or transsexual people who are gay, bisexual, and/or have sex with men (trans …


Primed²: A Sex Guide for Trans Men into Men | CATIE …https://www.catie.ca › resources › primed-sex-guide-tra..

It contains important information about staying sexually, mentally and emotionally safe and healthy. Primed was originally published in 2007 and updated in 2015.
16 Things I Learned From Having Sex With Trans Menhttps://www.advocate.com › sexy-beast › 16-things-i-le…

comments from mewe:

Alex C

I don’t like this modern trend in the community where some are calling others bigots or trsnsphobes for being attracted to just one set of genitals and not the other. I’m sorry, but we aren’t all pansexual or bisexual. Sexual attraction is not just about gender as many would have you believe. It’s also about biological sex and always has been, whether we like it or not. It isn’t fair to label someone a bigot or judge their character for their sexual attractions. Sexual attraction is NOT a choice and never has been. That is a fact that seems to be lost on more and more people in the community these days.

nina
yes. exactly. people with a wider range of attraction do need to stop calling monosexuals bigots for gay or lesbian sexuality.

and there is no reason to be sorry or that canadian as to say it to soften the view you are legit able to hold and express. and that is legit on the face of it

and the idea of removing biology from understanding people is also very bizarre, especially given dating is sexual selection and not a human rights issue.

name calling just validates a no on dating, as it is a major red flag on what a relationship would be. Dating is about attraction to and is selecting for sexual activity and as such, is a personal choice that everyone has a yes or no on, without threat of name calling, assault, rape or murder. Being rejected as a date is not a human rights complaint.

Alex C

Yeah, removing biology is a good way to put it. Some are 100% pan and 0% concerned with any biology or anatomy, and good for them, but we aren’t all like that. I can’t pretend to be pansexual to make that community happy, that would be like asking a straight person to pretend to be gay, and calling them a bigot for not being gay attracted. That’s absurd, and I hope this trend doesn’t stick or it will be very unhealthy for the community.

As a cis gay man I’ve always found the prospect of gay trans men interesting. I sometimes find myself attracted to trans men. Most that I’ve met in person seem to be interested in women though.

nina

I do not use the term cis, it has too many problems with the sissy slur and copting from black culture sounding like sis and. your identity is in your world experience. not other people’s who need other words to make sense of themself.

it is hard to have a conference on women and exclude mensuration, abortion/pregnancy and, menopause as panels and discussion/information.

nor should anyone pretend to be attracted to who they are not or use a label to avoid being name called.

bisexuals vs pansexual is a horrible debate too, bisexual being binary attraction and pan being beyond binary should be a compromise

Alex C

I personally don’t like the term pansexual because in fact there are NOT a panorama of sexes. There are 2 biological sexes, and in rare cases intersex. Pansexual refers to an attraction to multiple genders, and gender is a distinct concept from biological sex, so they really should describe that differently and not fight with people who are bisexual.

nina

bi vs pan is not about either one of those, it is about transgender. and it is about making gender something in a person’s mind and that is kinda like having to respect a person’s religion when you are an atheist.

once you reject the idea that there is only one hetero way to be either gender, it is not hard to realize there are many ways to be. personality and character is not limited to sexuality/gender and for lesbians there is one word that includes both, given faggot was not reclaimed by gay men.

Alex C

Gender is a social construct and a personal issue. I don’t like when people misuse science and try to say that science proves anything about gender. It doesn’t. Science only proves biological sex, and shows there’s a spectrum of hormonal balances, brain chemistry and neurological patterns that usually correspond to one biological sex but don’t always, and many people (including me) exist somewhere on that spectrum. We’re just getting caught up in stupid labels with all this infighting about what is factual and what isn’t, and who is “woke” and who isn’t. The science is very clear.

nina

how gender is represented and expected is a cultural concept that does vary, but that people have a gender is biology. I agree – it is also like religion vs biology, when biology says nothing about religion, and anthropology puts religion in it’s cultural place.

academics, medical, legal and then average people understanding differs across jargon specific vs casual use of language – and then are the agenda activists.

MEANWHILE:

everyone is one person and not any or all others.

“all identities simultaneously” – anyone else wondering how self loathing is driving this?

The film depicts Wagemans making the prototype for a futuristic mask, a piece of hackable body equipment that would incorporate software and could conceptually queer the notion of identity. “The story Samuel created is about documenting the making of a mask that is a fictive hacked nano-tech transhuman prototype that connects a global network of queer people who reject the mainstream appetite for immortality, super-intelligence, and well-being,” she told Dazed. “An object that you could take off and allows any uncensored software to be installed like scrambled identity – becoming all identities simultaneously.”

https://www.dazeddigital.com/art-photography/article/52776/1/artist-esmay-wagemans-creates-technology-for-the-future-queer-bodyArtist Esmay Wagemans creates technology for the future queer body | DazedThe science fiction artist envisions how biotech and technological enhancements may further the cause of queer liberation, for Samuel Douek’s short film STONEWALL 2069www.dazeddigital.com

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