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Phobia vs Not Dating

Gay men and bisexual men who are caught with men

https://www.justiceinitiative.org/voices/genocide-all-name-crime-being-gayGenocide in All But Name, for the “Crime” of Being Gay – Open Society Justice InitiativeSeven countries still apply the death penalty against homosexuals. Another 75 criminalize same-sex relations. It’s time to do something about these state-sanctioned acts of hate and destruction.www.justiceinitiative.org

serial killers who pretend to be heterosexual men in public

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/gay-man-killed-another-critically-injured-grindr-meetup-n1029881Gay man killed, another critically injured in Grindr meetupThis latest incident, which occurred in Detroit, is one of several across the U.S. and abroad where gay men were targeted on the popular LGBTQ dating app.www.nbcnews.com

calling out the “Islamophobia”

https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-lgbt-murder/31247605.htmlGay Man In Iran Reportedly Killed By His Own FamilyA 20-year-old Iranian man has reportedly been killed — perhaps beheaded — by family members in the country’s southwest because of his sexual orientation.www.rferl.org

Lesbians being murdered for being lesbians

https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-48719453The Red Zone: A place where butch lesbians live in fear – BBC NewsThree deaths and dozens of violent attacks have put butch lesbians in Chile’s Fifth region on red alert.www.bbc.com

https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/life-in-nazi-occupied-europe/oppression/lesbians/Lesbians – The Holocaust Explained: Designed for schoolswww.theholocaustexplained.org

https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/lesbians-are-also-being-killed-in-chechnya-and-no-one-seems-to-care/Lesbians are also being killed in Chechnya and ‘no-one seems to care’A lesbian who escaped Chechnya has bravely spoken of how her family wanted to kill her and got her toexorcised to get rid of the ‘demon’ making her queerwww.gaystarnews.com

https://fortune.com/2018/06/26/gay-lesbian-illegal-crime-states/Being Gay, Lesbian, or Bisexual Is a Crime in These Places | FortuneAs the U.S. celebrates the third anniversary of the legalization of gay marriage, we take a look at the places where no protections exist.fortune.com

the victim’s past does not matter nor excuse nor make okay

the rapist’s raping

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/05/lesbian-victim-sexual-assault-asked-court-heterosexual-one-stage/Lesbian victim of sexual assault asked in court if she was “heterosexual at one stage” / LGBTQ NationThe defense strategy is apparently to question whether the victim might have changed sexualities, consented to sex in her sleep, and lied about both…www.lgbtqnation.com

lesbian one

This Isn’t Right How Lesbians Get Assaulted We Are Not Safe Anymore

lesbian two

Judges need to stop expecting women to be virgins for men to be guilty of rape. there is no part of lesbian that is consent to sex with males

lesbian one

I Hear That I Agree 100%

lesbian two

i recall a case in the 1990s where the rapist got a longer sentence because the victim was lesbian, so the rape was deemed more horrifying than of a straight women. advanced for that decade…

lesbian one

I’m So Tired Of Laws Changing They Protect Rapists Here

lesbian two

this is the problem of all the position of power and decision being mostly hetero men who excuse each other

meanwhile:

there have not been “queen women” on anything

there have been bisexuals and lesbians

closeted, coded, and either suicides, murder victims or murders

the heterosexual male anxiety and castration fantasies

https://www.vox.com/2016/3/25/11302564/lesbian-deaths-television-tropeQueer women have been killed on television for decades. Now The 100’s fans are fighting back. – VoxThis fan outrage didn’t exactly appear out of nowhere.www.vox.com

from the UK following the USA Orlando massacre event.

so instead of dealing with heteosexual men and to a shared extent the heterosexual women… the lgbt becomes divided over who is more murdered, with a fight over dating

it is not the job of lesbians to make up for what heterosexual men do nor tell any that they have a pretty penis.

that fails to understand or respect or be an ally to lesbians.

who. do not have to validate at our own expense.

no means no,

to insult is rape culture.

and cotton ceiling is an admission of that.

the winner of victim card poker, are those who would genocide all non heterosexuals

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Heteros who insult, assault, rape and murder LGBTQ2 and also hetero women, btw, are the ones who are phobic.

Not being attracted to is not the same as being a bigot.

this is phobia.

not dating people from other letter groups is not phobic.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/05/14/oregon-house-representatives-lgbt-gay-trans-panic-defence/Ban on abhorrent gay and trans panic defence unanimously passed by OregonThe Oregon House of Representatives unanimously passed a measure that bans the gay and trans panic defence in legal proceedings.www.pinknews.co.uk

Hetero men who name called when refused dates are bad behaviour and any women who denies lesbians or any person a no on a date – which is a personal choice, and not a human rights issue – is part of the problem of dating.

to each person preference of desire and to the choice of sexual selection and intimate relations

Lesbians helped heterowomen get reproductive and workplace rights and then they went off and enjoyed those… then there was AIDs….. and now… this:

*article quotes*

However, our findings throw up several questions:

Who is on the wrong side of history when the GBT community operates a large-scale gaslighting of lesbians to accept the mantra that “trans women are women”; penises are deemed to be a female organ; and heterosexual intercourse is now redefined as a lesbian sexual practice?
Who is on the wrong side of history when the GBT community uncritically supports a population of transwomen who identify as lesbians to coerce lesbians into having sex with transwomen against their will?
Who is on the wrong side of history when lesbians’ sexual boundaries are disrespected and publicly demonised as hateful by the very charities whose purpose it is to defend them?
Who are the GBT organisations protecting by refusing to engage with lesbians’ very serious concerns?
Major gay, bisexual and trans organisations such as Stonewall and Pride in London should hang their heads in shame for ignoring our rights.

https://news.trust.org/item/20190412100802-6md1q/Lesbians need to get the L out of the LGBT+ communityLesbians are being callednews.trust.org

stop demanding dating as a condition of human rights support

that has to go both ways and to deny a no is to deny rights

lesbians do not expect their lesbian partners to be pregant and if the partner is a transwoman, it is very foolish to expect a lesbian to be sad she cannot get a transwoman pregnant. when the pregancy risk is the other way.

lesbian and gay sex is not procreative sex and that is part of it’s appeal and attraction.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/02/cisgender-lesbians-and-trans-women-how-to-mend-the-rift.htmlCisgender lesbians and trans women: How to mend the rift.In theory, our multifaceted, multilettered queer community is all about alliance, solidarity, and mutual support. Though we’ve seen advances in areas…slate.com

https://watermarkonline.com/tag/lesbian-erasure/Lesbian Erasure Archives – Watermark Onlinewatermarkonline.com

Generational change is inevitable, healthy, and necessary to progress. What I am living through right now is a painful transitional moment in which some of those older lesbian institutions are still going strong, and seeking participation and funding, while a current generation of activists are distancing themselves from such events, or even demonstrating against them. Younger, queer activists were vocal in opposing the Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival; right-wing religious groups once eager to shut the festival down had moved on to bigger targets. This dynamic—a next generation of feminists attacking earlier lesbian institutions and disparaging their participants as less evolved—is not unique to the 21st century or the United States; it is embedded in Jill Gardiner’s powerful book From the Closet to the Screen, which describes a 1970–71 Gay Liberation Front “zap” against London’s Gateways Club bar. As this generational shift grinds on, how should the most recent decades of cultural production be interpreted, understood, and preserved? How will we use the tools of history to examine something we know existed as an investigable community?

https://slate.com/human-interest/2016/12/disappearing-lesbians-and-the-need-to-preserve-dyke-culture.htmlDisappearing lesbians and the need to preserve dyke culture.My generation of lesbian activists, who honed our identity politics and confronted racism and classism in the spaces of women’s music events and…slate.com

dear bi, pan and trans women

sometimes bisexual is a portion of a woman’s life and she later lesbians and maybe call me then, see if I am available.

sometimes a person is attracted to a person because they are unclear on their own self and what they are attracted to, that personality of a sexuality and gender person.

so when bisexual women end up with men or are a phase but are not a phase. it is as exhausting as men who say they are women and then dress like women and surgically mutilate their bodies. still not women and do not define lesbian words.

i am attracted to vagina and not interested in a penis or a reverse penis hole that lacks a gspot or cervix and a woman around it.

meanwhile. bisexual and pan women and transwomen are able to date each other, without lesbians having to date outside of our group preference arising from our individual choices and preferences.

I am a lesbian, the word is gender and sexuality in one, seeking the same expression in another lesbian.

Lesbian erasure is the tendency to ignore, remove, falsify, or reexplain evidence of lesbian women or relationships in history, academia, the news media, and other primary sources.

Lesbians may also be ignored within the LGBT community and their identity may not be acknowledged

attraction to someone is not done by debate or framework

it is a physical response and an emotional reaction to the personality

lesbians have no reason to be made to feel that they have to date any person, trans or not and no one should deny anyone a no

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_erasureLesbian erasure – Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org

women are being erased in the medial sphere and in LGBTQ

the words mean specific things and transwomen do not represent the women experience

transwomen are using the same male gaslighting behaviours and then accusing women of anger

when transwomen are getting women’s awards and being positioned as role models

while complaining about the cotton ceiling and fetisizing lesbians

and using the hetero male murdering them as a sympathy ploy

while not dating bisexuals who potentially have attraction to

https://epgn.com/2021/03/10/lesbian-erasure-a-footnote-to-womens-history-month/Lesbian Erasure: A Footnote to Women’s History Month — Philadelphia Gay NewsWomen’s History Month often seems like Erasure of Lesbians Month. Many critically important women in American history past and present were lesbians: Susan B. Anthony, Jane Addams, Dr. Alice Hamilton, Dr. Emily Blackwell, Dr. Sara Josephine Baker, Rachel Carson, Dr. Sally Ride, Barbara Jordan, Pauli Murray, Dr. Ruth Gates, Patrisse Cullors and so many others. […]Show Moreepgn.com

meanwhile

every person gets a yes or not, without a value judgement

https://emjaymurphee.medium.com/why-gay-men-wont-date-trans-men-a6daf1bbd51aWhy (Some) Gay Men Won’t Date TransmenTransphobia doesn’t quite explain itemjaymurphee.medium.com


Gay, bisexual, and queer trans men navigating sexual fieldshttps://journals.sagepub.com › doi › pdf
by AI Scheim · 2019 · Cited by 15 — Trans men are individuals assigned a female sex at birth but who identify as male or masculine. Sexualities. 2019, Vol. 22(4) 566–586 ! The Author(s) 2017. Article …
Sexual Health of Trans Men Who Are Gay, Bisexual, or Who …https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › …
by GR Bauer · 2013 · Cited by 72 — Recent reports have addressed the sexual health of female-to-male transgender or transsexual people who are gay, bisexual, and/or have sex with men (trans …


Primed²: A Sex Guide for Trans Men into Men | CATIE …https://www.catie.ca › resources › primed-sex-guide-tra..

It contains important information about staying sexually, mentally and emotionally safe and healthy. Primed was originally published in 2007 and updated in 2015.
16 Things I Learned From Having Sex With Trans Menhttps://www.advocate.com › sexy-beast › 16-things-i-le…

comments from mewe:

Alex C

I don’t like this modern trend in the community where some are calling others bigots or trsnsphobes for being attracted to just one set of genitals and not the other. I’m sorry, but we aren’t all pansexual or bisexual. Sexual attraction is not just about gender as many would have you believe. It’s also about biological sex and always has been, whether we like it or not. It isn’t fair to label someone a bigot or judge their character for their sexual attractions. Sexual attraction is NOT a choice and never has been. That is a fact that seems to be lost on more and more people in the community these days.

nina
yes. exactly. people with a wider range of attraction do need to stop calling monosexuals bigots for gay or lesbian sexuality.

and there is no reason to be sorry or that canadian as to say it to soften the view you are legit able to hold and express. and that is legit on the face of it

and the idea of removing biology from understanding people is also very bizarre, especially given dating is sexual selection and not a human rights issue.

name calling just validates a no on dating, as it is a major red flag on what a relationship would be. Dating is about attraction to and is selecting for sexual activity and as such, is a personal choice that everyone has a yes or no on, without threat of name calling, assault, rape or murder. Being rejected as a date is not a human rights complaint.

Alex C

Yeah, removing biology is a good way to put it. Some are 100% pan and 0% concerned with any biology or anatomy, and good for them, but we aren’t all like that. I can’t pretend to be pansexual to make that community happy, that would be like asking a straight person to pretend to be gay, and calling them a bigot for not being gay attracted. That’s absurd, and I hope this trend doesn’t stick or it will be very unhealthy for the community.

As a cis gay man I’ve always found the prospect of gay trans men interesting. I sometimes find myself attracted to trans men. Most that I’ve met in person seem to be interested in women though.

nina

I do not use the term cis, it has too many problems with the sissy slur and copting from black culture sounding like sis and. your identity is in your world experience. not other people’s who need other words to make sense of themself.

it is hard to have a conference on women and exclude mensuration, abortion/pregnancy and, menopause as panels and discussion/information.

nor should anyone pretend to be attracted to who they are not or use a label to avoid being name called.

bisexuals vs pansexual is a horrible debate too, bisexual being binary attraction and pan being beyond binary should be a compromise

Alex C

I personally don’t like the term pansexual because in fact there are NOT a panorama of sexes. There are 2 biological sexes, and in rare cases intersex. Pansexual refers to an attraction to multiple genders, and gender is a distinct concept from biological sex, so they really should describe that differently and not fight with people who are bisexual.

nina

bi vs pan is not about either one of those, it is about transgender. and it is about making gender something in a person’s mind and that is kinda like having to respect a person’s religion when you are an atheist.

once you reject the idea that there is only one hetero way to be either gender, it is not hard to realize there are many ways to be. personality and character is not limited to sexuality/gender and for lesbians there is one word that includes both, given faggot was not reclaimed by gay men.

Alex C

Gender is a social construct and a personal issue. I don’t like when people misuse science and try to say that science proves anything about gender. It doesn’t. Science only proves biological sex, and shows there’s a spectrum of hormonal balances, brain chemistry and neurological patterns that usually correspond to one biological sex but don’t always, and many people (including me) exist somewhere on that spectrum. We’re just getting caught up in stupid labels with all this infighting about what is factual and what isn’t, and who is “woke” and who isn’t. The science is very clear.

nina

how gender is represented and expected is a cultural concept that does vary, but that people have a gender is biology. I agree – it is also like religion vs biology, when biology says nothing about religion, and anthropology puts religion in it’s cultural place.

academics, medical, legal and then average people understanding differs across jargon specific vs casual use of language – and then are the agenda activists.

MEANWHILE:

everyone is one person and not any or all others.

“all identities simultaneously” – anyone else wondering how self loathing is driving this?

The film depicts Wagemans making the prototype for a futuristic mask, a piece of hackable body equipment that would incorporate software and could conceptually queer the notion of identity. “The story Samuel created is about documenting the making of a mask that is a fictive hacked nano-tech transhuman prototype that connects a global network of queer people who reject the mainstream appetite for immortality, super-intelligence, and well-being,” she told Dazed. “An object that you could take off and allows any uncensored software to be installed like scrambled identity – becoming all identities simultaneously.”

https://www.dazeddigital.com/art-photography/article/52776/1/artist-esmay-wagemans-creates-technology-for-the-future-queer-bodyArtist Esmay Wagemans creates technology for the future queer body | DazedThe science fiction artist envisions how biotech and technological enhancements may further the cause of queer liberation, for Samuel Douek’s short film STONEWALL 2069www.dazeddigital.com

Dear Some: All or None is so Zero Sum

“:all lives matter” is a bigot claim to ignore the experience of minorities

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/i-dont-care-whether-all-lives-matter-is-said-in-ignorance-its-just-another-example-of-racism/‘I don’t care whether All Lives Matter is said in ignorance—it’s just another example of racism’ – Macleans.cawww.macleans.caShare (1)Emoji

Quirk Sugarplum27 minutes ago

It’s like paraphrasing Animal House.

All lives matter. But some lives matter more than others.

And the ones who’s lives matter more just happen to be the ones in a position to decide others’ lives matter less.

could have not dykesplained it any better. this i am gonna blog. Heterosexual men have to stop defining, insulting, assaulting, raping and murdering women who say no, men who ask for a yes and anyone who they think tricked them. given how they treat other heterosexual men, I am appalled that modern era feminism is about as behaving as badly as and as if, equality has been achieved. eh.

from another post, for the blog

Time for the professional medical profession to take the lead and not have non-expert celebrities from entertainment or sports

and especially not religion

speak to gender and sexuality and inform government policy

Writing on Twitter, Rowling said: “Since speaking up about gender identity theory, I’ve received thousands of emails – more than I’ve ever had on a single subject.

“Many have come from professionals working in medicine, education and social work. All are concerned about the effects on vulnerable young people.”

Referring to a post from the Transgender Trend website, she added: “The writers of this letter are just two of a growing number of whistleblowers.

Doctor and social media personality Eugene Gu said: “Treating transgender kids as if their gender identity is a mental illness causes them unimaginable psychological harm. Let people choose their own identities.”

Many stars of the Harry Potter movie franchise, including Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Watson, have condemned Rowling’s views.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/jk-rowling-medical-scandal-comments-094230094.htmlJ.K. Rowling predicts ‘medical scandal’ in transgender commentsJ.K. Rowling believes a “medical scandal” will engulf the NHS over its identity clinicsca.sports.yahoo.com

Have you ever met any humans? They don’t usually pay attention to actual professionals, medical or otherwise.

If only we could cross-pollinate celebrities and professionals. sigh.  But even then about half the time we get the worst traits combined and end up with a defect like Dr. Oz or Deepak Chopra.

i try to avoid them, I don’ anthropomorphize that species

i have a intergenerational and intersectional LGBTQ2 blog and i wonder if you are okay with my posting the exchanges we have. I think others would benefit from reading.

I can only guess you mean to use me as an example of poor thinking and bad expression. 😄

lols. far from, we do tend to agree more than most readers read for tho, eh.